tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post491975196015146060..comments2023-05-14T05:02:12.284-07:00Comments on Lee's Learners: English 10 2012-2013: Fishbowl #4: Fahrenheit 451 pgs. 93-130Lauren Leehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09913185724079645637noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-54582136974336161232013-03-13T12:14:26.799-07:002013-03-13T12:14:26.799-07:00Either Ms. Lee is blocking the act of deleting com...Either Ms. Lee is blocking the act of deleting comments or Blogger is messed up so I couldnt delete that. But after reading the page mentioned by David I remembered that she did live. I thought I read a quote that said she was dead. My bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-7516572901360555642013-03-13T12:14:23.302-07:002013-03-13T12:14:23.302-07:00There was nothing else he could do but get arreste...There was nothing else he could do but get arrested. If he ran, the Hound would kill him. If he didn't kill Beatty, he would get arrested. Since he just wants to make a change, even at the expense of himself, he takes the option that lets him carry on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-36045099818556463062013-03-13T12:13:41.656-07:002013-03-13T12:13:41.656-07:00What do you think will happen to montag after he r...What do you think will happen to montag after he runs away from the murder sceneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-3682861044244666272013-03-13T12:13:37.039-07:002013-03-13T12:13:37.039-07:00And I just said that sometimes violence IS ESSENTI...And I just said that sometimes violence IS ESSENTIAL, but that doesn't mean it will ever be completely justified by everyone. The bad guys don't see that as justice, they see it as an opportunity for vengence. And the person who does the violent act itself doesn't completely justify themselves of it, even if it was essential and in great intentions. Inside they don't feel that they've served justice, they feel like they've hurt someone - bad yes, but still a someone.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13812653154898115018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-71825838612558184402013-03-13T12:13:32.170-07:002013-03-13T12:13:32.170-07:00I don't believe Beatty wanted to die. I grinne...I don't believe Beatty wanted to die. I grinned just to insult and aggravate Montag. The purpose of this statement is to show Beatty's true personalty. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-80229057184048589092013-03-13T12:12:50.625-07:002013-03-13T12:12:50.625-07:00Easily so. Most people would surrender to stall Mo...Easily so. Most people would surrender to stall Montag until the police arrived, but he pressed Montag to attack. If this wasn't a death wish, then he just doesn't think Montag has the guts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-25339263543073576272013-03-13T12:12:47.580-07:002013-03-13T12:12:47.580-07:00Yes, I think that Beatty wanted to let Montag know...Yes, I think that Beatty wanted to let Montag know that he wanted to die, instead of being scared and talking him out of killing him. He just wanted to get it over with and let Montag know that it was ok to kill him (Him being Beatty)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-72400869615375740562013-03-13T12:12:38.722-07:002013-03-13T12:12:38.722-07:00I don't think that there was any indication th...I don't think that there was any indication that she was going to leave Montag or even tell on him after she convers for him when he is going to read Dover Beach. Also i believe she left because she doesn't love Montag and because she cares more about her "family" then Montag. She expresses this by mumbling on about the family when she leaves and doesn't say a word to Montag.Angelohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15828195607579360404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-40041202815608136912013-03-13T12:12:19.890-07:002013-03-13T12:12:19.890-07:00When montage kills his captain is there anything t...When montage kills his captain is there anything that justified him to do this? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-47123044306674245722013-03-13T12:12:14.989-07:002013-03-13T12:12:14.989-07:00After Montag's explosion at the house reading ...After Montag's explosion at the house reading the poetry to the women Mildred got distant and started to get further from Montag. Also all threee of the girls called the police on Montag<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-2111670870986832942013-03-13T12:11:37.195-07:002013-03-13T12:11:37.195-07:00On pg 101 Mildred is starting to show love and emo...On pg 101 Mildred is starting to show love and emotion after this tragic event. How do you think her future will be effected by this, will Mildred do anything drastic?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-32359727003620333972013-03-13T12:11:31.777-07:002013-03-13T12:11:31.777-07:00She is unhappy and tried to kill herself. She want...She is unhappy and tried to kill herself. She wants to blame her unhappiness on Montag rather then deal with her emotions. I believe Mildred thinks that she will be happy if she leaves Montag.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-33296633331116052552013-03-13T12:11:05.127-07:002013-03-13T12:11:05.127-07:00"Mildred came down the steps, running, one su..."Mildred came down the steps, running, one suitcase held with a dreamlike clenching rigidity in her fist, as a beetle-taxi hissed to the curb" (114).<br />She gets a taxi and drives off. She's nowhere near the house when it gets burned down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-4796991808568337322013-03-13T12:09:58.972-07:002013-03-13T12:09:58.972-07:00No, she told the government that Montag had books ...No, she told the government that Montag had books and left him to take a taxi.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-32886531213416890562013-03-13T12:09:55.341-07:002013-03-13T12:09:55.341-07:00To Paraphrase; Violence may at times be essential,...To Paraphrase; Violence may at times be essential, but violence at no time is ever completely justifiable.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13812653154898115018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-38645338233627959562013-03-13T12:09:53.641-07:002013-03-13T12:09:53.641-07:00This event signifies Montag wanting change. He is ...This event signifies Montag wanting change. He is trying to get people to realize that technology is taking over all of their lives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-427144410049679812013-03-13T12:09:51.645-07:002013-03-13T12:09:51.645-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-12094041733778967502013-03-13T12:09:26.212-07:002013-03-13T12:09:26.212-07:00I think in america their getting the benifits of a...I think in america their getting the benifits of all the other contries and they do all the hard work so they revultedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-10880423817428848322013-03-13T12:09:19.099-07:002013-03-13T12:09:19.099-07:00On page 119 Bradbury writes," Beatty grinned ...On page 119 Bradbury writes," Beatty grinned his most charming grin. 'Well, that's one way to get an audience. Hold a gun on a man and force him to listen to your speech.' "(119). Do you think Beatty grinned and insulted Montag because he wanted to die? What is the purpose of this statement? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-72160529733413299292013-03-13T12:09:12.293-07:002013-03-13T12:09:12.293-07:00Violence is justified in the case of when somethin...Violence is justified in the case of when something needs to be done and that is the only logical way to achieve this. In the case of killing Beatty, that was justified, something had to be done finally. Peace is not always the answer. There are many cases in which peace does absolutely nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-72131364117876633812013-03-13T12:09:08.640-07:002013-03-13T12:09:08.640-07:00As of now we only know of this utopian like societ...As of now we only know of this utopian like society and if they are having a war chances are that it i with another utopian society. The reason i say this is because a utopia may be completely different from another utopia. it could even have something to do with books.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-20593611930826234752013-03-13T12:08:54.130-07:002013-03-13T12:08:54.130-07:00I think violence can be justified in some cases. ...I think violence can be justified in some cases. During disagreements people try to make a peaceful solution, but end up going to war. If they couldnt work it out, it is justified. <br /><br />I cant find a quote from the book so I will used the last episode of The Walking Dead for my example.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-82474310769031652372013-03-13T12:08:47.340-07:002013-03-13T12:08:47.340-07:00I agree with Jake. I think most of the time it sho...I agree with Jake. I think most of the time it should only be okay in self-defenseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-14829193301978318162013-03-13T12:08:14.285-07:002013-03-13T12:08:14.285-07:00Did Mildred get burned by Montag? I am confused on...Did Mildred get burned by Montag? I am confused on this part!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3948204185017968505.post-20404584130088809142013-03-13T12:07:50.851-07:002013-03-13T12:07:50.851-07:00Violence in my opinion is never justified, essenti...Violence in my opinion is never justified, essential maybe to escape a bad situation in tact, but never justified as the right thing to do. Because the difference is that if something is justified then it means it wasn't done in vain, the act you did never came back to bite you in the but. Violence always comes back to bite you, whether by others or your own guilt. So Violence may be essential to WIN or ESCAPE, but it is never completely justified. 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