Friday, March 22, 2013

It's almost spring break!  I know we're ready for it, but let's have 1 last great discussion before we take a week off.

As you post today, focus on crafting open-ended questions that can be answered with words beyond "yes" and "no".  A great way to do this is to avoid constructions that begin with the words "do" and "does" in favor of constructions like "to what extent".

Continue to work on spreading out your replies.  It looks like you did a great job with that in our last discussion.  Rather than have 10 comments about 1 question, after that question has been responded to a few times, choose a new question to answer.

Also, continue to work on supporting your thinking.  For this text, as it is visual instead of written, you will want to do this by summarizing scenes or specific images.

Happy posting!

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    2. The illusion was ruined for him. He had nothing left that he wanted on Seahaven Island. Se he pursues his childhood dream and leaves to explore the world.

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    3. I think that he thought he had nothing left to lose and was ready for a change so he decided it was better to leave than stay and live with his fake mom and dad and job.

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    4. I think that he realized that something was wrong and also the fact that he kept thinking about Silvia caused him to go and find her, from when he had the flashback of them on the beach and how her "father" drove up and took her away and said that they were moving to Fiji

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  2. To what extent can something be controlled and still be absolutely genuine?

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    1. I think there is a fine line between controlling something and still keeping it genuine. Truman realizes this in the movie,and it winds up changing his life forever.

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  3. Is there a similarity between Clarisse from F451 and Silvia (Lauren) from TTS? If so explain

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    1. I think there is because they both tell Montag and Truman something and they start to notice things from a different point of view.

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    2. There is because they are both the ones that make the protagonist. They helped both Montag and Truman out of the society and world they were living in by helping them think clearly.

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    3. I think there is a great similarity between the two characters because they each tried to convince Montag and Truman that there was more to life than what they knew. They were also both removed from their texts early.

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    4. Both of these characters get taken away because they make an impact on the main character.

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  4. In F451 and the Truman show does water and fire represent death or new beginning. why.

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    1. They represent both. In the beginning of the texts, each of these motifs represent some form of destruction, although fire does not explicitly mean death in Fahrenheit 451. Also, in the end, both motifs are put into different perspective; Truman uses water to escape, and Montag is kept warm by a campfire. Here, they both show a new beginning.

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    2. At the start of the Truman show and F451 both of these symbols represented death. But, at the end of these stories the meaning of the symbols change to help our main characters form a new beginning for themselves.

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    1. I think that he realized that something was wrong and also the fact that he kept thinking about Silvia caused him to go and find her, from when he had the flashback of them on the beach and how her "father" drove up and took her away and said that they were moving to Fiji

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    2. I think he knew he was doing the right thing, and he finally knew the world he was living in wasn't real.

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    3. Because the only world he has seen was the fake one that Christof made for him. He wanted to see what reality was like.

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    4. I think he got sick of living in the same old world. After he realizes his world isn't real, it convinces him even more that he needs to get away.

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    5. Truman probably caught on to the whole fake life thing ever since he really first saw the elevator with no backing and then the perfectly timed street. When he notices these things i think he became curious and just wanted to find out what was really happening.

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  7. Why does the show try to keep Truman and Cilvia way from eachother?

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    1. *Silvia

      And because she told him that his life is a lie. If she told him anymore, then he would question the world he is in and that would be bad for the TV producers.

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    2. I think that Cilvia only played along on TTS just to get a chance to talk to Truman and then tell him that this was fake because she didn't like what Crystoff was doing

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    3. Sylvia wanted the best for him, and not to live in a fake life and reveal the truth to him that he is a "prisoner". But, the company didn't want him to know because they knew he would try to leave if he knew the truth, that's why she was taken away and kicked out.

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    4. I think they did this because she was a flaw in the show, and just like the books in F451, they got rid of her. I also think the creators of the show knew she was going to tell him what was going on, and the whole show would be ruined.

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    5. He was trying to keep Truman from finding out about what is really real. Silvia was trying to get Truman to the real world and that was the exact opposite of Kristof's plans.

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  8. Why would they teach Truman about the world and geography while he was young if they didn't want him leaving the island?

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    1. They wanted him to still be as smart as a normal kid. They didn't want him to be stupid. That would make the show not interesting.

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    2. I think they wanted the show to be as realistic as possible.

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    3. There was a classroom scene where young Truman stood up and proclaimed his ambition to explore, and the teacher showed him a real map and told him that there was nothing left to explore. By showing him that they already knew everything about the world, they discouraged him from trying to find something new.

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    4. Even though they were trying to keep him from not leaving they still wanted him to believe he was in the real world.

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    5. They wanted Truman to feel normal. If he didn't learn that stuff he might have questioned why he wasn't learning it.

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    6. They might have still wanted to have him grow up a normal kid just for the media issues because if he were not as intelligent the show may have not been as popular as it was to the point where everyone was watching it at every point.

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    7. I think the director wanted to show Trumans ambitions and how his ambitions were stifled because he lived in a false world.

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  9. because they know that if she met him she would have tried so hard to convince him that the world he was in was fake

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  10. If the movie didn't end with Truman walking out of the set and it showed him in the real world... Will he ever find Silvia?

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    1. Yes he would because Silvia went looking for him so if both people are looking for each other then they will most likely find each other.

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    2. They would because Truman had always wanted to go to Fiji just because he thought Silvia was there. Both of their wills were strong and they would find each other eventually.

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  11. Is it right to keep a human as a prop for a show? Why or why not? Explain your thinking.

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    1. I dont think the humans were considered as props. The characters in the show got paid for their presence, as far as we know.

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    2. No, because you are basically ruining their life by telling them that certain stuff is real and other stuff is fake. And that they can't change their life and that the director makes everything happen to him and you wouldn't be able to choose their own actions

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    3. @ Andrew: not necessarily the actions but more like Truman himself as a prop

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    4. As long as they are getting paid and get to go home they are still normal actors not props.

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  12. Both Fahrenheit 451 and The Truman Show are "cliffhangers", both of them end with the main protagonist escaping their society, but very little after that in Fahrenheit 451 and nothing at all after it in The Truman Show. Could this add to the meaning of either text as a whole? What are the producers of both groups saying about each character with this?

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  13. Do you think that Truman Sees the Boss Man (Kristoff i think?) as a father?

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    1. No, i do not think Truman sees him as a father. I think Truman sees him as more of just the creator of the fake world he was living in for half his life.

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    2. I don't think he does because he betrayed him in the end and no one simply betrays their father or someone they think of as their father like that.

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    3. No. I think he hates him for not telling Truman the truth. Plus, I don't think they have ever seen eachother or met.

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    4. No, because Truman never really met him personally and that he had to grow up with his pretend mom after his father drowned when he was a kid

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    5. I think Kristoff sees Truman as his son because he practically controlled all of Trumans dealings and viewed him his entire life. However I don't think Truman sees Kristoff as a father figure because he didn't know he was there until the end.

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  14. What was the turning point in the movie that lead Truman to find out that his whole life was a lie?

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